[CCC-FSFTN] SUB:Theni-CCC,Distro and Syllabus: Reg

Tue Apr 19 18:26:06 IST 2016

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On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 6:24 PM, Venkatesh Thennarasan <
venkatesh.thennarasan at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yogesh hope you saw the syllabus i gave , we have to start from 6th, and
> update syllabus every acedamic year. Only disadvantage is that to perfect a
> full syllabus from 6 to 9 we need 4 years.
>
> 1. I've been sending mail regarding theni issue since last 4 days, only
> this ugly mail got me a reply. I just wanted to highlight the issue.
>
> 2.I am not suggesting that we create distros, instead am proposing that we
> are conceiving a new fork like Balaswecha and It at school, Theni is just a
> test bed. And we are not going to do it all at once we are going to upgrade
> it incrementally each academic year since we focus only class VI this year .
>
> 3.Roping college can't be done cuz I don't know what is their level of
> their dedication to this issue,
>
> 4.We've got an awesome scenario , IF we prove ourselves we could even talk
> to education board .I even plan of maintaining a feedback and monitoring
> system. It's not just we go install train and comeback. We also need to
> asses the students understanding of our syllabus
>
> 4.Repo?
>
> 5.We'll they've already asked me the question that are we lobbying against
> Windows, I don't want to project FSFTN like that,We just promote FLOSS, our
> hatred towards proprietary software is from our personal views.
>
> 6.One thing I agree with you “இங்க இன்னா சொல்து? ஜெஸ்ஸி ஜெஸ்ஸி சொல்தா😆😀
> ?'
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Yogesh G <yogeshg1987 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 5. We can create a list of applications they use. I don't expect it to be
>> anything fancy. We could boot Windows from half the machines and leave the
>> rest intact in case they go cold-turkey.
>>
>> --
>> Y
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Prasanth Radhakrishnan <
>> prasanth1584 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 2) We are looking at 25 systems that are going to be used by students of
>>> class VI, VII and VIII over the years. I feel a distro may give us more
>>> flexibility in addition to branding purposes. But maybe, we can start with
>>> an existing one and create our own once things pick up. I am open to both
>>> views.
>>>
>>> 3) College is nowhere close to the school. So, except for a GLUG being
>>> created in the college and students from there going to the school, I don't
>>> think the college will help in any other way
>>>
>>> 5) The reason I am not comfortable with booting out Windows yet is the
>>> lack of a support system in the area. Once the college GLUG there is set up
>>> or  the teachers themselves are more comfortable, we can remove Winddows.
>>>
>>> Prasanth
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Yogesh G <yogeshg1987 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 1. Use simple plain text. My first reaction when I see your ugly large
>>>> text is that this is spam.
>>>> 2. Stop suggesting that we create distros. It's a waste of time and
>>>> energy if you are simply going to install it in one or two machines. Debian
>>>> Jessie would do and we could use a wi-fi dongle or something to install the
>>>> one or two applications that may not  be present.
>>>> 3. We could try and rope in the college so that the labs are used by
>>>> the children when free
>>>> 4. Create an FSFTN repo for syllabi
>>>> 5. Convince the management to kick out WinXP and switch it to something
>>>> modern like Debian Jessie or Fedora (I prefer Jessie)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Yogesh.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 7:23 AM, Venkatesh Thennarasan <
>>>> venkatesh.thennarasan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> *Hi, Ive created a new thread , I want your replies and views,ASAP.*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Communnity Computing Center-Theni*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Background:*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *https://discuss.fsftn.org/t/tamil-educational-software-packages-for-children/650*
>>>>> <https://discuss.fsftn.org/t/tamil-educational-software-packages-for-children/650>
>>>>>
>>>>> Based on this request, Prasanth and Venkatesh went to Theni district
>>>>> to study the requirements, infrastructure and feasibility of the project.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Site report*
>>>>>
>>>>> We visited two schools in the area. One of the schools was in Rayappanpatti
>>>>> village and the other was in Gokilapuram village.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Rayappanpatti Village*
>>>>>
>>>>> The schoool in Rayappanpatti is a government aided private Board High
>>>>> school (with 3500 students from 6th to 12th). Most of the students
>>>>> are from very poor backgrounds. They have a lab with around 25 computers
>>>>> all of which run Windows XP.
>>>>>
>>>>> We had a discusson with the computer teachers of the school. From
>>>>> class VI, students are allowed to come to the computer lab. However, in the
>>>>> absence of any syllabus, they are mainly taught Paint and the MS Office
>>>>> suite. The teachers said they gave up on ide of teaching C language to 9
>>>>> th graders, since Turbo C couldn't be installed
>>>>>
>>>>> We also had a discusson with the correspondent. He gave us a free hand
>>>>> to do anything we like with respect to computer education till class VIII.
>>>>> He was also keen on introducing the education of other subjects through
>>>>> digital methods (like IT at school in Kerala) as and when we could
>>>>> implement.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Gokilapuram Village*
>>>>>
>>>>> Gokilapuram has a small school run by the Harijan Seva Sangh. There
>>>>> are 55 students stuudying there from classes I-VIII. They don't have a
>>>>> computer there. The trust who took us to these villages is planning to buy
>>>>> them a couple of desktops. Since they also don't have a syllabus, they are
>>>>> open to any ideas we give them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Medium of education in both these schools is Tamil.
>>>>>
>>>>> *What we can do*
>>>>>
>>>>> The idea of this Initiative is to introduce Free and Open source
>>>>> software to school childern through their curriculum, and to do so at a
>>>>> stage when they are first exposed to computers.
>>>>>
>>>>> This can first be through defining a computer science syllabus for
>>>>> them. Later, after students get used to it, we can look at the idea of
>>>>> bringing in educational packages for all subjects.
>>>>>
>>>>> Initially, it would be wise to take up just class VI and define a
>>>>> syllabus and give them the tools for that and as that batch progresses, we
>>>>> can give them more options in the future years. This also helpos us
>>>>> evaluate and enhance the syllabus and prepare a more elaborate one for the
>>>>> next year.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ideally, we can create a distro which can, to start with, have the
>>>>> following tools
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Sl. NO.*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Tool Name*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Properaitery tool alterntive*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Type*
>>>>>
>>>>> 1
>>>>>
>>>>> mPaint
>>>>>
>>>>> MS Paint
>>>>>
>>>>> Paint application
>>>>>
>>>>> 2
>>>>>
>>>>> LibreDraw
>>>>>
>>>>> MS visio/CorelDraw
>>>>>
>>>>> Vector Graphics editor
>>>>>
>>>>> 3
>>>>>
>>>>> LibreWriter
>>>>>
>>>>> Msword
>>>>>
>>>>> Document Writer
>>>>>
>>>>> 4
>>>>>
>>>>> Gedit
>>>>>
>>>>> Notepad
>>>>>
>>>>> Text Editor
>>>>>
>>>>> 5
>>>>>
>>>>> LibreImpress
>>>>>
>>>>> MS Powerpoint
>>>>>
>>>>> Presentation
>>>>>
>>>>> 6
>>>>>
>>>>> Tamil99
>>>>>
>>>>> None
>>>>>
>>>>> Keybord Layout
>>>>>
>>>>> 7
>>>>>
>>>>> HTML
>>>>>
>>>>> NONE
>>>>>
>>>>> Hypertext markup
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We can also add whatever educational packages we can localise. But in
>>>>> addition to this, we need to define a proper syllabus for class VI. For
>>>>> this, we could take a look at CBSE syallbus and maybe provide a series of
>>>>> directions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Advantages of taking this up
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) We have a full freedom to do whatever we wish in this school. This
>>>>> may be more difficult in a place like Chennai
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) The school has decent infrastructure and a friendly administration
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) The target audience reflects our mission as a social organisation
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Disadvantages:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Distance!
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a solution for this. There is a college nearby where computer
>>>>> science courses are offered. The same people who took us to the village
>>>>> have contacts with that college and spoke to the college management. The
>>>>> management would also like to meet us. If we can set up a GLUG there, they
>>>>> can take this forward instead of someone from Chennai having to go.
>>>>>
>>>>> Similarly, volunteers from Tiruchi can also reach the place more
>>>>> easily. So, we should bring them into the loop too
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Task ahead
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Define a syllabus for class VI students which the computer teachers
>>>>> can take
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) Create a light-wight distro for the school
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *DONE Others can share their views*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *CBSE SYLLABUS*
>>>>>
>>>>> *http://kvmzu.org/kvmzu%20split%20up%20syllabus/computer%20syllabus.pdf
>>>>> <http://kvmzu.org/kvmzu%20split%20up%20syllabus/computer%20syllabus.pdf>*
>>>>>
>>>>> *http://www.kvanantnag.org/admin/downloads/1557282077computer.doc
>>>>> <http://www.kvanantnag.org/admin/downloads/1557282077computer.doc>*
>>>>>
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>>>>> M267
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