[CCC-FSFTN] SUB:Theni-CCC,Distro and Syllabus: Reg

Tue Apr 19 18:24:18 IST 2016

Yogesh hope you saw the syllabus i gave , we have to start from 6th, and
update syllabus every acedamic year. Only disadvantage is that to perfect a
full syllabus from 6 to 9 we need 4 years.

1. I've been sending mail regarding theni issue since last 4 days, only
this ugly mail got me a reply. I just wanted to highlight the issue.

2.I am not suggesting that we create distros, instead am proposing that we
are conceiving a new fork like Balaswecha and It at school, Theni is just a
test bed. And we are not going to do it all at once we are going to upgrade
it incrementally each academic year since we focus only class VI this year .

3.Roping college can't be done cuz I don't know what is their level of
their dedication to this issue,

4.We've got an awesome scenario , IF we prove ourselves we could even talk
to education board .I even plan of maintaining a feedback and monitoring
system. It's not just we go install train and comeback. We also need to
asses the students understanding of our syllabus

4.Repo?

5.We'll they've already asked me the question that are we lobbying against
Windows, I don't want to project FSFTN like that,We just promote FLOSS, our
hatred towards proprietary software is from our personal views.

6.One thing I agree with you “இங்க இன்னா சொல்து? ஜெஸ்ஸி ஜெஸ்ஸி சொல்தா😆😀?'

On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Yogesh G <yogeshg1987 at gmail.com> wrote:

> 5. We can create a list of applications they use. I don't expect it to be
> anything fancy. We could boot Windows from half the machines and leave the
> rest intact in case they go cold-turkey.
>
> --
> Y
>
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Prasanth Radhakrishnan <
> prasanth1584 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 2) We are looking at 25 systems that are going to be used by students of
>> class VI, VII and VIII over the years. I feel a distro may give us more
>> flexibility in addition to branding purposes. But maybe, we can start with
>> an existing one and create our own once things pick up. I am open to both
>> views.
>>
>> 3) College is nowhere close to the school. So, except for a GLUG being
>> created in the college and students from there going to the school, I don't
>> think the college will help in any other way
>>
>> 5) The reason I am not comfortable with booting out Windows yet is the
>> lack of a support system in the area. Once the college GLUG there is set up
>> or  the teachers themselves are more comfortable, we can remove Winddows.
>>
>> Prasanth
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Yogesh G <yogeshg1987 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 1. Use simple plain text. My first reaction when I see your ugly large
>>> text is that this is spam.
>>> 2. Stop suggesting that we create distros. It's a waste of time and
>>> energy if you are simply going to install it in one or two machines. Debian
>>> Jessie would do and we could use a wi-fi dongle or something to install the
>>> one or two applications that may not  be present.
>>> 3. We could try and rope in the college so that the labs are used by the
>>> children when free
>>> 4. Create an FSFTN repo for syllabi
>>> 5. Convince the management to kick out WinXP and switch it to something
>>> modern like Debian Jessie or Fedora (I prefer Jessie)
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Yogesh.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 7:23 AM, Venkatesh Thennarasan <
>>> venkatesh.thennarasan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> *Hi, Ive created a new thread , I want your replies and views,ASAP.*
>>>>
>>>> *Communnity Computing Center-Theni*
>>>>
>>>> *Background:*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *https://discuss.fsftn.org/t/tamil-educational-software-packages-for-children/650*
>>>> <https://discuss.fsftn.org/t/tamil-educational-software-packages-for-children/650>
>>>>
>>>> Based on this request, Prasanth and Venkatesh went to Theni district to
>>>> study the requirements, infrastructure and feasibility of the project.
>>>>
>>>> *Site report*
>>>>
>>>> We visited two schools in the area. One of the schools was in Rayappanpatti
>>>> village and the other was in Gokilapuram village.
>>>>
>>>> *Rayappanpatti Village*
>>>>
>>>> The schoool in Rayappanpatti is a government aided private Board High
>>>> school (with 3500 students from 6th to 12th). Most of the students are
>>>> from very poor backgrounds. They have a lab with around 25 computers all of
>>>> which run Windows XP.
>>>>
>>>> We had a discusson with the computer teachers of the school. From class
>>>> VI, students are allowed to come to the computer lab. However, in the
>>>> absence of any syllabus, they are mainly taught Paint and the MS Office
>>>> suite. The teachers said they gave up on ide of teaching C language to 9
>>>> th graders, since Turbo C couldn't be installed
>>>>
>>>> We also had a discusson with the correspondent. He gave us a free hand
>>>> to do anything we like with respect to computer education till class VIII.
>>>> He was also keen on introducing the education of other subjects through
>>>> digital methods (like IT at school in Kerala) as and when we could
>>>> implement.
>>>>
>>>> *Gokilapuram Village*
>>>>
>>>> Gokilapuram has a small school run by the Harijan Seva Sangh. There are
>>>> 55 students stuudying there from classes I-VIII. They don't have a computer
>>>> there. The trust who took us to these villages is planning to buy them a
>>>> couple of desktops. Since they also don't have a syllabus, they are open to
>>>> any ideas we give them.
>>>>
>>>> Medium of education in both these schools is Tamil.
>>>>
>>>> *What we can do*
>>>>
>>>> The idea of this Initiative is to introduce Free and Open source
>>>> software to school childern through their curriculum, and to do so at a
>>>> stage when they are first exposed to computers.
>>>>
>>>> This can first be through defining a computer science syllabus for
>>>> them. Later, after students get used to it, we can look at the idea of
>>>> bringing in educational packages for all subjects.
>>>>
>>>> Initially, it would be wise to take up just class VI and define a
>>>> syllabus and give them the tools for that and as that batch progresses, we
>>>> can give them more options in the future years. This also helpos us
>>>> evaluate and enhance the syllabus and prepare a more elaborate one for the
>>>> next year.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ideally, we can create a distro which can, to start with, have the
>>>> following tools
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Sl. NO.*
>>>>
>>>> *Tool Name*
>>>>
>>>> *Properaitery tool alterntive*
>>>>
>>>> *Type*
>>>>
>>>> 1
>>>>
>>>> mPaint
>>>>
>>>> MS Paint
>>>>
>>>> Paint application
>>>>
>>>> 2
>>>>
>>>> LibreDraw
>>>>
>>>> MS visio/CorelDraw
>>>>
>>>> Vector Graphics editor
>>>>
>>>> 3
>>>>
>>>> LibreWriter
>>>>
>>>> Msword
>>>>
>>>> Document Writer
>>>>
>>>> 4
>>>>
>>>> Gedit
>>>>
>>>> Notepad
>>>>
>>>> Text Editor
>>>>
>>>> 5
>>>>
>>>> LibreImpress
>>>>
>>>> MS Powerpoint
>>>>
>>>> Presentation
>>>>
>>>> 6
>>>>
>>>> Tamil99
>>>>
>>>> None
>>>>
>>>> Keybord Layout
>>>>
>>>> 7
>>>>
>>>> HTML
>>>>
>>>> NONE
>>>>
>>>> Hypertext markup
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We can also add whatever educational packages we can localise. But in
>>>> addition to this, we need to define a proper syllabus for class VI. For
>>>> this, we could take a look at CBSE syallbus and maybe provide a series of
>>>> directions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Advantages of taking this up
>>>>
>>>> 1) We have a full freedom to do whatever we wish in this school. This
>>>> may be more difficult in a place like Chennai
>>>>
>>>> 2) The school has decent infrastructure and a friendly administration
>>>>
>>>> 3) The target audience reflects our mission as a social organisation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Disadvantages:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Distance!
>>>>
>>>> There is a solution for this. There is a college nearby where computer
>>>> science courses are offered. The same people who took us to the village
>>>> have contacts with that college and spoke to the college management. The
>>>> management would also like to meet us. If we can set up a GLUG there, they
>>>> can take this forward instead of someone from Chennai having to go.
>>>>
>>>> Similarly, volunteers from Tiruchi can also reach the place more
>>>> easily. So, we should bring them into the loop too
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Task ahead
>>>>
>>>> 1) Define a syllabus for class VI students which the computer teachers
>>>> can take
>>>>
>>>> 2) Create a light-wight distro for the school
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *DONE Others can share their views*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *CBSE SYLLABUS*
>>>>
>>>> *http://kvmzu.org/kvmzu%20split%20up%20syllabus/computer%20syllabus.pdf
>>>> <http://kvmzu.org/kvmzu%20split%20up%20syllabus/computer%20syllabus.pdf>*
>>>>
>>>> *http://www.kvanantnag.org/admin/downloads/1557282077computer.doc
>>>> <http://www.kvanantnag.org/admin/downloads/1557282077computer.doc>*
>>>>
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