[CCC-FSFTN] SUB:Theni-CCC,Distro and Syllabus: Reg

Tue Apr 19 12:47:58 IST 2016

5. We can create a list of applications they use. I don't expect it to be
anything fancy. We could boot Windows from half the machines and leave the
rest intact in case they go cold-turkey.

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On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Prasanth Radhakrishnan <
prasanth1584 at gmail.com> wrote:

> 2) We are looking at 25 systems that are going to be used by students of
> class VI, VII and VIII over the years. I feel a distro may give us more
> flexibility in addition to branding purposes. But maybe, we can start with
> an existing one and create our own once things pick up. I am open to both
> views.
>
> 3) College is nowhere close to the school. So, except for a GLUG being
> created in the college and students from there going to the school, I don't
> think the college will help in any other way
>
> 5) The reason I am not comfortable with booting out Windows yet is the
> lack of a support system in the area. Once the college GLUG there is set up
> or  the teachers themselves are more comfortable, we can remove Winddows.
>
> Prasanth
>
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Yogesh G <yogeshg1987 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 1. Use simple plain text. My first reaction when I see your ugly large
>> text is that this is spam.
>> 2. Stop suggesting that we create distros. It's a waste of time and
>> energy if you are simply going to install it in one or two machines. Debian
>> Jessie would do and we could use a wi-fi dongle or something to install the
>> one or two applications that may not  be present.
>> 3. We could try and rope in the college so that the labs are used by the
>> children when free
>> 4. Create an FSFTN repo for syllabi
>> 5. Convince the management to kick out WinXP and switch it to something
>> modern like Debian Jessie or Fedora (I prefer Jessie)
>>
>>
>> --
>> Yogesh.
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 7:23 AM, Venkatesh Thennarasan <
>> venkatesh.thennarasan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> *Hi, Ive created a new thread , I want your replies and views,ASAP.*
>>>
>>> *Communnity Computing Center-Theni*
>>>
>>> *Background:*
>>>
>>>
>>> *https://discuss.fsftn.org/t/tamil-educational-software-packages-for-children/650*
>>> <https://discuss.fsftn.org/t/tamil-educational-software-packages-for-children/650>
>>>
>>> Based on this request, Prasanth and Venkatesh went to Theni district to
>>> study the requirements, infrastructure and feasibility of the project.
>>>
>>> *Site report*
>>>
>>> We visited two schools in the area. One of the schools was in Rayappanpatti
>>> village and the other was in Gokilapuram village.
>>>
>>> *Rayappanpatti Village*
>>>
>>> The schoool in Rayappanpatti is a government aided private Board High
>>> school (with 3500 students from 6th to 12th). Most of the students are
>>> from very poor backgrounds. They have a lab with around 25 computers all of
>>> which run Windows XP.
>>>
>>> We had a discusson with the computer teachers of the school. From class
>>> VI, students are allowed to come to the computer lab. However, in the
>>> absence of any syllabus, they are mainly taught Paint and the MS Office
>>> suite. The teachers said they gave up on ide of teaching C language to 9
>>> th graders, since Turbo C couldn't be installed
>>>
>>> We also had a discusson with the correspondent. He gave us a free hand
>>> to do anything we like with respect to computer education till class VIII.
>>> He was also keen on introducing the education of other subjects through
>>> digital methods (like IT at school in Kerala) as and when we could
>>> implement.
>>>
>>> *Gokilapuram Village*
>>>
>>> Gokilapuram has a small school run by the Harijan Seva Sangh. There are
>>> 55 students stuudying there from classes I-VIII. They don't have a computer
>>> there. The trust who took us to these villages is planning to buy them a
>>> couple of desktops. Since they also don't have a syllabus, they are open to
>>> any ideas we give them.
>>>
>>> Medium of education in both these schools is Tamil.
>>>
>>> *What we can do*
>>>
>>> The idea of this Initiative is to introduce Free and Open source
>>> software to school childern through their curriculum, and to do so at a
>>> stage when they are first exposed to computers.
>>>
>>> This can first be through defining a computer science syllabus for them.
>>> Later, after students get used to it, we can look at the idea of bringing
>>> in educational packages for all subjects.
>>>
>>> Initially, it would be wise to take up just class VI and define a
>>> syllabus and give them the tools for that and as that batch progresses, we
>>> can give them more options in the future years. This also helpos us
>>> evaluate and enhance the syllabus and prepare a more elaborate one for the
>>> next year.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ideally, we can create a distro which can, to start with, have the
>>> following tools
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Sl. NO.*
>>>
>>> *Tool Name*
>>>
>>> *Properaitery tool alterntive*
>>>
>>> *Type*
>>>
>>> 1
>>>
>>> mPaint
>>>
>>> MS Paint
>>>
>>> Paint application
>>>
>>> 2
>>>
>>> LibreDraw
>>>
>>> MS visio/CorelDraw
>>>
>>> Vector Graphics editor
>>>
>>> 3
>>>
>>> LibreWriter
>>>
>>> Msword
>>>
>>> Document Writer
>>>
>>> 4
>>>
>>> Gedit
>>>
>>> Notepad
>>>
>>> Text Editor
>>>
>>> 5
>>>
>>> LibreImpress
>>>
>>> MS Powerpoint
>>>
>>> Presentation
>>>
>>> 6
>>>
>>> Tamil99
>>>
>>> None
>>>
>>> Keybord Layout
>>>
>>> 7
>>>
>>> HTML
>>>
>>> NONE
>>>
>>> Hypertext markup
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We can also add whatever educational packages we can localise. But in
>>> addition to this, we need to define a proper syllabus for class VI. For
>>> this, we could take a look at CBSE syallbus and maybe provide a series of
>>> directions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Advantages of taking this up
>>>
>>> 1) We have a full freedom to do whatever we wish in this school. This
>>> may be more difficult in a place like Chennai
>>>
>>> 2) The school has decent infrastructure and a friendly administration
>>>
>>> 3) The target audience reflects our mission as a social organisation
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Disadvantages:
>>>
>>> 1) Distance!
>>>
>>> There is a solution for this. There is a college nearby where computer
>>> science courses are offered. The same people who took us to the village
>>> have contacts with that college and spoke to the college management. The
>>> management would also like to meet us. If we can set up a GLUG there, they
>>> can take this forward instead of someone from Chennai having to go.
>>>
>>> Similarly, volunteers from Tiruchi can also reach the place more easily.
>>> So, we should bring them into the loop too
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Task ahead
>>>
>>> 1) Define a syllabus for class VI students which the computer teachers
>>> can take
>>>
>>> 2) Create a light-wight distro for the school
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *DONE Others can share their views*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *CBSE SYLLABUS*
>>>
>>> *http://kvmzu.org/kvmzu%20split%20up%20syllabus/computer%20syllabus.pdf
>>> <http://kvmzu.org/kvmzu%20split%20up%20syllabus/computer%20syllabus.pdf>*
>>>
>>> *http://www.kvanantnag.org/admin/downloads/1557282077computer.doc
>>> <http://www.kvanantnag.org/admin/downloads/1557282077computer.doc>*
>>>
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