[CCC-FSFTN] SUB:Theni-CCC,Distro and Syllabus: Reg

Thu Apr 21 08:53:44 IST 2016

@ Others further inputs ?

-Sibi

On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Yogesh G <yogeshg1987 at gmail.com> wrote:

> 5. We can create a list of applications they use. I don't expect it to be
> anything fancy. We could boot Windows from half the machines and leave the
> rest intact in case they go cold-turkey.
>
> --
> Y
>
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Prasanth Radhakrishnan <
> prasanth1584 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 2) We are looking at 25 systems that are going to be used by students of
>> class VI, VII and VIII over the years. I feel a distro may give us more
>> flexibility in addition to branding purposes. But maybe, we can start with
>> an existing one and create our own once things pick up. I am open to both
>> views.
>>
>> 3) College is nowhere close to the school. So, except for a GLUG being
>> created in the college and students from there going to the school, I don't
>> think the college will help in any other way
>>
>> 5) The reason I am not comfortable with booting out Windows yet is the
>> lack of a support system in the area. Once the college GLUG there is set up
>> or  the teachers themselves are more comfortable, we can remove Winddows.
>>
>> Prasanth
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Yogesh G <yogeshg1987 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 1. Use simple plain text. My first reaction when I see your ugly large
>>> text is that this is spam.
>>> 2. Stop suggesting that we create distros. It's a waste of time and
>>> energy if you are simply going to install it in one or two machines. Debian
>>> Jessie would do and we could use a wi-fi dongle or something to install the
>>> one or two applications that may not  be present.
>>> 3. We could try and rope in the college so that the labs are used by the
>>> children when free
>>> 4. Create an FSFTN repo for syllabi
>>> 5. Convince the management to kick out WinXP and switch it to something
>>> modern like Debian Jessie or Fedora (I prefer Jessie)
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Yogesh.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 7:23 AM, Venkatesh Thennarasan <
>>> venkatesh.thennarasan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> *Hi, Ive created a new thread , I want your replies and views,ASAP.*
>>>>
>>>> *Communnity Computing Center-Theni*
>>>>
>>>> *Background:*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *https://discuss.fsftn.org/t/tamil-educational-software-packages-for-children/650*
>>>> <https://discuss.fsftn.org/t/tamil-educational-software-packages-for-children/650>
>>>>
>>>> Based on this request, Prasanth and Venkatesh went to Theni district to
>>>> study the requirements, infrastructure and feasibility of the project.
>>>>
>>>> *Site report*
>>>>
>>>> We visited two schools in the area. One of the schools was in Rayappanpatti
>>>> village and the other was in Gokilapuram village.
>>>>
>>>> *Rayappanpatti Village*
>>>>
>>>> The schoool in Rayappanpatti is a government aided private Board High
>>>> school (with 3500 students from 6th to 12th). Most of the students are
>>>> from very poor backgrounds. They have a lab with around 25 computers all of
>>>> which run Windows XP.
>>>>
>>>> We had a discusson with the computer teachers of the school. From class
>>>> VI, students are allowed to come to the computer lab. However, in the
>>>> absence of any syllabus, they are mainly taught Paint and the MS Office
>>>> suite. The teachers said they gave up on ide of teaching C language to 9
>>>> th graders, since Turbo C couldn't be installed
>>>>
>>>> We also had a discusson with the correspondent. He gave us a free hand
>>>> to do anything we like with respect to computer education till class VIII.
>>>> He was also keen on introducing the education of other subjects through
>>>> digital methods (like IT at school in Kerala) as and when we could
>>>> implement.
>>>>
>>>> *Gokilapuram Village*
>>>>
>>>> Gokilapuram has a small school run by the Harijan Seva Sangh. There are
>>>> 55 students stuudying there from classes I-VIII. They don't have a computer
>>>> there. The trust who took us to these villages is planning to buy them a
>>>> couple of desktops. Since they also don't have a syllabus, they are open to
>>>> any ideas we give them.
>>>>
>>>> Medium of education in both these schools is Tamil.
>>>>
>>>> *What we can do*
>>>>
>>>> The idea of this Initiative is to introduce Free and Open source
>>>> software to school childern through their curriculum, and to do so at a
>>>> stage when they are first exposed to computers.
>>>>
>>>> This can first be through defining a computer science syllabus for
>>>> them. Later, after students get used to it, we can look at the idea of
>>>> bringing in educational packages for all subjects.
>>>>
>>>> Initially, it would be wise to take up just class VI and define a
>>>> syllabus and give them the tools for that and as that batch progresses, we
>>>> can give them more options in the future years. This also helpos us
>>>> evaluate and enhance the syllabus and prepare a more elaborate one for the
>>>> next year.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ideally, we can create a distro which can, to start with, have the
>>>> following tools
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Sl. NO.*
>>>>
>>>> *Tool Name*
>>>>
>>>> *Properaitery tool alterntive*
>>>>
>>>> *Type*
>>>>
>>>> 1
>>>>
>>>> mPaint
>>>>
>>>> MS Paint
>>>>
>>>> Paint application
>>>>
>>>> 2
>>>>
>>>> LibreDraw
>>>>
>>>> MS visio/CorelDraw
>>>>
>>>> Vector Graphics editor
>>>>
>>>> 3
>>>>
>>>> LibreWriter
>>>>
>>>> Msword
>>>>
>>>> Document Writer
>>>>
>>>> 4
>>>>
>>>> Gedit
>>>>
>>>> Notepad
>>>>
>>>> Text Editor
>>>>
>>>> 5
>>>>
>>>> LibreImpress
>>>>
>>>> MS Powerpoint
>>>>
>>>> Presentation
>>>>
>>>> 6
>>>>
>>>> Tamil99
>>>>
>>>> None
>>>>
>>>> Keybord Layout
>>>>
>>>> 7
>>>>
>>>> HTML
>>>>
>>>> NONE
>>>>
>>>> Hypertext markup
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We can also add whatever educational packages we can localise. But in
>>>> addition to this, we need to define a proper syllabus for class VI. For
>>>> this, we could take a look at CBSE syallbus and maybe provide a series of
>>>> directions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Advantages of taking this up
>>>>
>>>> 1) We have a full freedom to do whatever we wish in this school. This
>>>> may be more difficult in a place like Chennai
>>>>
>>>> 2) The school has decent infrastructure and a friendly administration
>>>>
>>>> 3) The target audience reflects our mission as a social organisation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Disadvantages:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Distance!
>>>>
>>>> There is a solution for this. There is a college nearby where computer
>>>> science courses are offered. The same people who took us to the village
>>>> have contacts with that college and spoke to the college management. The
>>>> management would also like to meet us. If we can set up a GLUG there, they
>>>> can take this forward instead of someone from Chennai having to go.
>>>>
>>>> Similarly, volunteers from Tiruchi can also reach the place more
>>>> easily. So, we should bring them into the loop too
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Task ahead
>>>>
>>>> 1) Define a syllabus for class VI students which the computer teachers
>>>> can take
>>>>
>>>> 2) Create a light-wight distro for the school
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *DONE Others can share their views*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *CBSE SYLLABUS*
>>>>
>>>> *http://kvmzu.org/kvmzu%20split%20up%20syllabus/computer%20syllabus.pdf
>>>> <http://kvmzu.org/kvmzu%20split%20up%20syllabus/computer%20syllabus.pdf>*
>>>>
>>>> *http://www.kvanantnag.org/admin/downloads/1557282077computer.doc
>>>> <http://www.kvanantnag.org/admin/downloads/1557282077computer.doc>*
>>>>
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