[CCC-FSFTN] SUB:Theni-CCC,Distro and Syllabus: Reg

Thu Apr 28 09:32:15 IST 2016

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> *In Tamil Nadu , India FSFTN has taken an initiative to take FLOSS to
school Students through Education, Initially We have Taken a Rural School
in Outskirts of Theni Town. And Several Community Computing Centers.*

*We have planned to fork a Distro for the educational purpose and design it
based on the curriculum of Tamil Nadu's Education System. And also Localize
it.*

*We like your suggestions on choosing the Distro, Would Your Distro be
suitable for the Purpose or do you suggest any Other Alternatives*

THe boilded message i am going to share in several mailing lists of
Deb,Fedora edubuntu along with the attachment, Please review

On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Venkatesh Thennarasan <
venkatesh.thennarasan at gmail.com> wrote:

> There have been recent discussions on need for a distro for CCC Projects
> within FSFTN.
>
> We need to have a curriculum based OS for the Students of Tamil nadu. For
> that I'm going to begin by Forwarding our theni scenario and need for OS in
> several Mailing lists and take suggestions from them
>
>
> FSFTN has already workd on such an OS. I would like to call for a Physical
> meetup This week.Please reply ASAP. I also want your suggestions
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 9:07 AM, Venkatesh Thennarasan <
> venkatesh.thennarasan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Balaji Ravichandran <rbalajives at gmail.com>
>> Date: Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 7:41 PM
>> Subject: FSFTN Meeting Report 24th April 2016
>> To: "core at fsftn.org" <core at fsftn.org>
>> Cc: Deva Kumar <Devakumar.mj at gmail.com>, Srravya C <srravya.c at gmail.com>,
>> Theni N Lingeswaran <lingeswaran66 at gmail.com>, aravinthforever at gmail.com,
>> venkatesh.thennarasan at gmail.com
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Today the FSFTN Meeting happened at our Office at T.Nagar. The main
>> purpose of this meeting is to check the progress of the responsibilities
>> taken last week and also discussion on the *Glug Manifesto.*
>>
>> *FSFTN Volunteers Attended :-*
>>
>>
>>    1. Venkatesh
>>    2. Aravind Karthik
>>    3. Sibi
>>    4. Srravya
>>    5. Deva
>>    6. Balaji
>>    7. Lingesh
>>
>> *Community Computing Centre (Venkatesh) :-*
>>
>>    - Discussions about Distro for CCC
>>    - Have emailed to various Mailing Lists for Distro
>>    - Localisation in Tamil for Softwares
>>    - BalSwecha needs to be localized
>>    - TVA has arranged for a public space for Work
>>
>> *FTW (Lingesh) :-*
>>
>>
>>    - Frame a syllabus for sessions in Government Schools
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Balaji Ravichandran ( பாலாஜி ) ,
>> Volunteer at Free Software Foundation - Tamilnadu,
>> Mobile : 9790528505
>> My Blog - balogic.wordpress.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> M267
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 8:53 AM, sibi kanagaraj <sibi at fsftn.org> wrote:
>>
>>> @ Others further inputs ?
>>>
>>> -Sibi
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Yogesh G <yogeshg1987 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 5. We can create a list of applications they use. I don't expect it to
>>>> be anything fancy. We could boot Windows from half the machines and leave
>>>> the rest intact in case they go cold-turkey.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Y
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Prasanth Radhakrishnan <
>>>> prasanth1584 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 2) We are looking at 25 systems that are going to be used by students
>>>>> of class VI, VII and VIII over the years. I feel a distro may give us more
>>>>> flexibility in addition to branding purposes. But maybe, we can start with
>>>>> an existing one and create our own once things pick up. I am open to both
>>>>> views.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) College is nowhere close to the school. So, except for a GLUG being
>>>>> created in the college and students from there going to the school, I don't
>>>>> think the college will help in any other way
>>>>>
>>>>> 5) The reason I am not comfortable with booting out Windows yet is the
>>>>> lack of a support system in the area. Once the college GLUG there is set up
>>>>> or  the teachers themselves are more comfortable, we can remove Winddows.
>>>>>
>>>>> Prasanth
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Yogesh G <yogeshg1987 at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Use simple plain text. My first reaction when I see your ugly
>>>>>> large text is that this is spam.
>>>>>> 2. Stop suggesting that we create distros. It's a waste of time and
>>>>>> energy if you are simply going to install it in one or two machines. Debian
>>>>>> Jessie would do and we could use a wi-fi dongle or something to install the
>>>>>> one or two applications that may not  be present.
>>>>>> 3. We could try and rope in the college so that the labs are used by
>>>>>> the children when free
>>>>>> 4. Create an FSFTN repo for syllabi
>>>>>> 5. Convince the management to kick out WinXP and switch it to
>>>>>> something modern like Debian Jessie or Fedora (I prefer Jessie)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Yogesh.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 7:23 AM, Venkatesh Thennarasan <
>>>>>> venkatesh.thennarasan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Hi, Ive created a new thread , I want your replies and views,ASAP.*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Communnity Computing Center-Theni*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Background:*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *https://discuss.fsftn.org/t/tamil-educational-software-packages-for-children/650*
>>>>>>> <https://discuss.fsftn.org/t/tamil-educational-software-packages-for-children/650>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Based on this request, Prasanth and Venkatesh went to Theni district
>>>>>>> to study the requirements, infrastructure and feasibility of the project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Site report*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We visited two schools in the area. One of the schools was in Rayappanpatti
>>>>>>> village and the other was in Gokilapuram village.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Rayappanpatti Village*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The schoool in Rayappanpatti is a government aided private Board
>>>>>>> High school (with 3500 students from 6th to 12th). Most of the
>>>>>>> students are from very poor backgrounds. They have a lab with around 25
>>>>>>> computers all of which run Windows XP.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We had a discusson with the computer teachers of the school. From
>>>>>>> class VI, students are allowed to come to the computer lab. However, in the
>>>>>>> absence of any syllabus, they are mainly taught Paint and the MS Office
>>>>>>> suite. The teachers said they gave up on ide of teaching C language to 9
>>>>>>> th graders, since Turbo C couldn't be installed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We also had a discusson with the correspondent. He gave us a free
>>>>>>> hand to do anything we like with respect to computer education till class
>>>>>>> VIII. He was also keen on introducing the education of other subjects
>>>>>>> through digital methods (like IT at school in Kerala) as and when we
>>>>>>> could implement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Gokilapuram Village*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gokilapuram has a small school run by the Harijan Seva Sangh. There
>>>>>>> are 55 students stuudying there from classes I-VIII. They don't have a
>>>>>>> computer there. The trust who took us to these villages is planning to buy
>>>>>>> them a couple of desktops. Since they also don't have a syllabus, they are
>>>>>>> open to any ideas we give them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Medium of education in both these schools is Tamil.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *What we can do*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The idea of this Initiative is to introduce Free and Open source
>>>>>>> software to school childern through their curriculum, and to do so at a
>>>>>>> stage when they are first exposed to computers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This can first be through defining a computer science syllabus for
>>>>>>> them. Later, after students get used to it, we can look at the idea of
>>>>>>> bringing in educational packages for all subjects.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Initially, it would be wise to take up just class VI and define a
>>>>>>> syllabus and give them the tools for that and as that batch progresses, we
>>>>>>> can give them more options in the future years. This also helpos us
>>>>>>> evaluate and enhance the syllabus and prepare a more elaborate one for the
>>>>>>> next year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ideally, we can create a distro which can, to start with, have the
>>>>>>> following tools
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Sl. NO.*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Tool Name*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Properaitery tool alterntive*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Type*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> mPaint
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> MS Paint
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paint application
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LibreDraw
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> MS visio/CorelDraw
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Vector Graphics editor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LibreWriter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Msword
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Document Writer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gedit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Notepad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Text Editor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LibreImpress
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> MS Powerpoint
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Presentation
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 6
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tamil99
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Keybord Layout
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 7
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HTML
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NONE
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hypertext markup
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We can also add whatever educational packages we can localise. But
>>>>>>> in addition to this, we need to define a proper syllabus for class VI. For
>>>>>>> this, we could take a look at CBSE syallbus and maybe provide a series of
>>>>>>> directions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Advantages of taking this up
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) We have a full freedom to do whatever we wish in this school.
>>>>>>> This may be more difficult in a place like Chennai
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) The school has decent infrastructure and a friendly administration
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3) The target audience reflects our mission as a social organisation
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Disadvantages:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) Distance!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is a solution for this. There is a college nearby where
>>>>>>> computer science courses are offered. The same people who took us to the
>>>>>>> village have contacts with that college and spoke to the college
>>>>>>> management. The management would also like to meet us. If we can set up a
>>>>>>> GLUG there, they can take this forward instead of someone from Chennai
>>>>>>> having to go.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Similarly, volunteers from Tiruchi can also reach the place more
>>>>>>> easily. So, we should bring them into the loop too
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Task ahead
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) Define a syllabus for class VI students which the computer
>>>>>>> teachers can take
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) Create a light-wight distro for the school
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *DONE Others can share their views*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *CBSE SYLLABUS*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *http://kvmzu.org/kvmzu%20split%20up%20syllabus/computer%20syllabus.pdf
>>>>>>> <http://kvmzu.org/kvmzu%20split%20up%20syllabus/computer%20syllabus.pdf>*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *http://www.kvanantnag.org/admin/downloads/1557282077computer.doc
>>>>>>> <http://www.kvanantnag.org/admin/downloads/1557282077computer.doc>*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> M267
>>>>>>>
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