[CCC-FSFTN] Fwd: Fwd: Re: Let's Start
Venkatesh Thennarasan
venkatesh.thennarasan at gmail.com
Sun Apr 24 22:14:50 IST 2016
bala y have you reshared it??
On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:01 PM, sibi kanagaraj <sibi at fsftn.org> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> It's a mammoth task taken by Venkatesh to compile the experience , steps
> to be taken. Please do review it , give your feedback , get involved.
>
> @venkatesh @prasanth - Would it also be better to post this pad link in
> the discuss discussion .
>
> @Venkatesh - My personal opinion is that , we need to have this as a
> separate thread for easy understanding .
>
> -Sibi
> On Apr 14, 2016 9:03 PM, "sibi kanagaraj" <sibi at fsftn.org> wrote:
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: sibi kanagaraj <civil.sibi1 at gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 9:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [CCC-FSFTN] Fwd: Re: Let's Start
> To: Mailing list for Community Computing Center <ccc at fsftn.org>
>
>
>
> *CommunnityComputing Center-Theni*
> *Background:*
>
> *https://discuss.fsftn.org/t/tamil-educational-software-packages-for-children/650*
> <https://discuss.fsftn.org/t/tamil-educational-software-packages-for-children/650>
> Basedon this request, Prasanth and Venkatesh went to Theni district
> tostudy the requirements, infrastructure and feasibility of theproject.
> *Sitereport*
> Wevisited two schools in the area. One of the schools was
> inRayappanpattivillage and the other was in Gokilapuram village.
> *RayappanpattiVillage*
> Theschoool in Rayappanpatti is a government aided private Board Highschool
> (with 3500 students from 6thto 12th). Most of the students are from very
> poor backgrounds. They have a labwith around 25 computers all of which run
> Windows XP.
> Wehad a discusson with the computer teachers of the school. From classVI,
> students are allowed to come to the computer lab. However, in theabsence of
> any syllabus, they are mainly taught Paint and the MSOffice suite. The
> teachers said they gave up on ide of teaching Clanguage to 9thgraders,
> since Turbo C couldn't be installed
> Wealso had a discusson with the correspondent. He gave us a free handto do
> anything we like with respect to computer education till classVIII. He was
> also keen on introducing the education of other subjectsthrough digital
> methods (like IT at school in Kerala) as and when wecould implement.
> *GokilapuramVillage*
> Gokilapuramhas a small school run by the Harijan Seva Sangh. There are
> 55students stuudying there from classes I-VIII. They don't have acomputer
> there. The trust who took us to these villages is planningto buy them a
> couple of desktops. Since they also don't have asyllabus, they are open to
> any ideas we give them.
> Mediumof education in both these schools is Tamil.
> *Whatwe can do*
> Theidea of this Initiative is to introduce Free and Open source softwareto
> school childern through their curriculum, and to do so at a stagewhen they
> are first exposed to computers.
> Thiscan first be through defining a computer science syllabus for
> them.Later, after students get used to it, we can look at the idea
> ofbringing in educational packages for all subjects.
> Initially,it would be wise to take up just class VI and define a syllabus
> andgive them the tools for that and as that batch progresses, we cangive
> them more options in the future years. This also helpos usevaluate and
> enhance the syllabus and prepare a more elaborate onefor the next year.
>
>
> Ideally,we can create a distro which can, to start with, have the
> followingtools
>
>
>
>
> +--------+------------------+------------------------------------+---------------------------------+
> |Sl. NO.| Tool Name | Properaitery tool alterntive
> |Type |
>
> +--------+------------------+------------------------------------+---------------------------------+
> |1 | mPaint | MS
> Paint | Paint application |
> |2 | LibreDraw | MS Visio/CorelDraw
> |Vector Graphics editor |
> |3 | LibreWriter | MS
> Word |Document Writer |
> |4 | Gedit |
> Notepad |Text
> Editor |
> |5 | LibreImpress| MS Powerpoint
> |Presentation |
> |6 | Tamil99 |
> None |Keybord Layout |
> |7 | HTML |
> NONE |Hypertext markup |
> ===========================================================
>
>
> Wecan also add whatever educational packages we can localise. But
> inaddition to this, we need to define a proper syllabus for class VI.For
> this, we could take a look at CBSE syallbus and maybe provide aseries of
> directions.
>
>
> Advantagesof taking this up
> 1)We have a full freedom to do whatever we wish in this school. Thismay be
> more difficult in a place like Chennai
> 2)The school has decent infrastructure and a friendly administration
> 3)The target audience reflects our mission as a social organisation
>
>
> Disadvantages:
> 1)Distance!
> Thereis a solution for this. There is a college nearby where
> computerscience courses are offered. The same people who took us to
> thevillage have contacts with that college and spoke to the
> collegemanagement. The management would also like to meet us. If we can
> setup a GLUG there, they can take this forward instead of someone
> fromChennai having to go.
> Similarly,volunteers from Tiruchi can also reach the place more easily.
> So, weshould bring them into the loop too
>
>
> Taskahead
> 1)Define a syllabus for class VI students which the computer teacherscan
> take
> 2)Create a light-wight distro for the school
>
>
> *DONEOthers can share their views*
>
>
> *CBSESYLLABUS*
> *http://kvmzu.org/kvmzu%20split%20up%20syllabus/computer%20syllabus.pdf*
> <http://kvmzu.org/kvmzu%20split%20up%20syllabus/computer%20syllabus.pdf>
> *http://www.kvanantnag.org/admin/downloads/1557282077computer.doc*
> <http://www.kvanantnag.org/admin/downloads/1557282077computer.doc>
>
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 8:57 PM, Venkatesh Thennarasan <
> venkatesh.thennarasan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> what contents
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 8:36 PM, sibi kanagaraj <sibi at fsftn.org> wrote:
>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: "sibi kanagaraj" <civil.sibi1 at gmail.com>
>>> Date: Apr 14, 2016 8:34 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [CCC-FSFTN] Let's Start
>>> To: "Mailing list for Community Computing Center" <ccc at fsftn.org>
>>> Cc:
>>>
>>> Please paste the contents here
>>> On Apr 14, 2016 8:26 PM, "Venkatesh Thennarasan" <
>>> venkatesh.thennarasan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Report on Theni Visit.Please share your views
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://oasis.sandstorm.io/shared/JMawFuSY8OoJXuGxjubPbdBKpkZitkw1ApZc6f9gaEH
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Devakumar Murugan <
>>>> devakumar.mj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> @prasanth let us know if any help need from or side but today I can't
>>>>> come and once again contact Chennai person soon We will plan in Chennai.
>>>>> On Apr 5, 2016 8:56 PM, "Venkatesh Thennarasan" <
>>>>> venkatesh.thennarasan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> i can come to theni awesome
>>>>> \
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 7:28 PM, Prasanth Radhakrishnan <
>>>>> prasanth1584 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> @deva
>>>>>> This meeting has to happen on Friday because they had fixed it in
>>>>>> advance even before we were in the picture. From the next time, we can
>>>>>> suggest the dates according to our convenience.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @Balaji
>>>>>> Yes. That has to be our plan. Part of the reason we are going this
>>>>>> week is also to interact with them regarding their requirements and the
>>>>>> kind of facilities/infra they have. Once we are clear on that, we can
>>>>>> create the distro
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Balaji Ravichandran <
>>>>>> rbalajives at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First we need to be sure on the list of required packages used by
>>>>>>> students then the next step would be to create a custom distro woth those
>>>>>>> packages and installiung it wherever we want it to be.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We already have a thread on discuss,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://discuss.fsftn.org/t/tamil-educational-software-packages-for-children/650
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://discuss.fsftn.org/t/need-help-to-list-out-available-free-software-for-desktop-platform-like-linux-windows-and-macintosh/563
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5 April 2016 at 08:58, Devakumar Murugan <devakumar.mj at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Great... But Friday we have work if it is sat and Sunday like if we
>>>>>>>> leaving here by Friday evng then I can join with you
>>>>>>>> On Apr 4, 2016 11:41 PM, "Prasanth Radhakrishnan" <
>>>>>>>> prasanth1584 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Some updates
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1) Regarding CCC in Chennai, our contact has been busy for a
>>>>>>>>> couple of days. He has said he will get back this week for confirmation of
>>>>>>>>> when we can visit him.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2) Some of you might remember this thread on discuss
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://discuss.fsftn.org/t/tamil-educational-software-packages-for-children/650
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A school in Theni has asked our help to install educational
>>>>>>>>> packages for children. They have asked if we can go there this Friday (we
>>>>>>>>> leave on Thursday evening). The aim of the trip is to have a quick meeting
>>>>>>>>> with the school administration and the students (if possible, we can have a
>>>>>>>>> brief session with them too. Through this, we can gain a understanding of
>>>>>>>>> requirements of the school and students.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After this trip, we may need to go one or two more times to
>>>>>>>>> install packages, help students out etc,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll be going. And, we need two more volunteers. Who's up for
>>>>>>>>> travelling :) ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Prasanth
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Prasanth Radhakrishnan <
>>>>>>>>> prasanth1584 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Will confirm this today
>>>>>>>>>> On 28 Mar 2016 7:49 p.m., "Venkatesh Thennarasan" <
>>>>>>>>>> venkatesh.thennarasan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> take me when you go
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 2:35 PM, Balaji Ravichandran <
>>>>>>>>>>> rbalajives at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Prashant,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can we go by this Friday?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you Free?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 28 March 2016 at 13:39, Alagunambi Welkin <
>>>>>>>>>>>> alagunambiwelkin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Admins, please remove me from this group immediately. Its
>>>>>>>>>>>>> irritating to see mails from core members.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Prasanth Radhakrishnan <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> prasanth1584 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome. Have spoken to our contact in chennai. He says he's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identified a site for CCC. Any day this week when 1-2 of you are free, we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can go and confirm.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please indicate who all are interested and when.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prasanth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 28 Mar 2016 12:42 p.m., "Devakumar Murugan" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devakumar.mj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very nice :). we will have to plan something for this. At
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the first we planned to have ccc in chennai where we have helped for flood.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and now we are also planning to have place for rent in viluppuram lets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consider that too and work on that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Balaji Ravichandran <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbalajives at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.gnu.org/education/edu-cases-india-ambedkar.en.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Blog - balogic.wordpress.com
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